Exploring Consciousness in the Block Universe (A query to ChatGPT, again)

Early on I warned that I would occasionally use this website as my sandbox to post my ramblings. My apologies for this rambling, as it is not a good story, scholarship, poetry, or even an interesting quote. Rather, it is just a post-it note in the ether, preserving a moment in time of an exploration of a thought that I found interesting.

The Block Universe and the Multiverse have increasingly become areas of scholarly inquiry for me. In recent months, I have been reading academic papers and books to deepen my understanding of both concepts. However, I must acknowledge that, while I find them fascinating, they lie largely outside my area of competency, except perhaps in a philosophical context. Despite this, I am undeniably drawn to both models, though many questions remain unanswered. To explore my ideas, I often turn to AI as a starting point for my inquiries, a way to clarify my inchoate thoughts and ideas.

This evening, I found myself particularly curious about the theoretical interaction between two individuals in the Block Universe model, specifically when they are not in “conscious alignment” but still interacting at the same point in time. Below is the inquiry I posed to ChatGPT and the response I received. I share this as yet another example of how ChatGPT can significantly enrich my exploration of ideas, particularly when I am surrounded by papers, books, and my computer without a similarly interested friend to discuss my ideas – and more importantly, my questions with – at length.

I will not burden you with the followup queries I made and the responses I received that refined the question below to include the Multiverse, migrating consciousnesses, etc., as factors. I will only note that the “discussion,” as it were, became rather heady.


My Inquiry to ChatGPT:

In the Block Universe model, where time is static and every moment exists simultaneously, if Individual A is conscious and interacting with Individual B at a particular point in time (let’s call it ABC on the time axis), can A’s conscious interaction with B be considered a “resurrection” of B, even if B’s consciousness has moved away from that moment? In other words, does A’s present consciousness revive B’s existence, or is B reduced to a mere memory? If time is static and both A and B exist at point ABC, how can we dismiss B’s presence as simply a memory? Wouldn’t A’s conscious perception of B bring B fully into the present, regardless of B’s own conscious awareness at that moment?


ChatGPT’s Response:

Your inquiry touches on a deeply philosophical and metaphysical problem: in a Block Universe, where time is static and every moment exists simultaneously, what happens to individual B if individual A is presently conscious and interacting with them, but B’s consciousness is not at the same point of present awareness? Does A’s conscious interaction with B “resurrect” B, making them fully present, or is B reduced to a mere memory?

1. The Nature of the Present in the Block Universe:

In the Block Universe model, all events—past, present, and future—are equally real and exist at once. Time, much like space, is laid out as a four-dimensional “block” where every point in time is a fixed coordinate. In this framework, “now” is relative—one individual’s present moment might not align with another’s, but both moments exist eternally within the same spacetime.

This leads to the question: if A’s consciousness is at a certain point on the time axis (let’s call it ABC), and B was at ABC at some point, can A’s current awareness bring B back into present existence, or is B simply an imprint of a past moment?

2. The Role of Perception and Consciousness:

Your suggestion, which draws on the nature of perception, implies that A’s perception of B in the present moment might “revive” or “resurrect” B in a meaningful way. In essence, the act of A’s awareness or consciousness interacting with B might not merely render B a memory, but instead fully re-engage B in the present moment. This raises a few key possibilities:

  • Relational Reality: The philosopher Martin Buber, in his work I and Thou, argued that the world is not made up of isolated individuals but of relationships. In the context of the Block Universe, this suggests that the relationship between A and B could make B fully real in A’s consciousness. Even if B is not consciously aware in that moment, A’s engagement could create a present relational reality where B exists in full presence within the scope of their interaction.
  • Revival through Observation: In quantum theory, the act of observation plays a crucial role in defining the state of particles (the observer effect). Although you are not suggesting quantum mechanics applies directly here, your analogy suggests that A’s conscious awareness might act as a kind of observer, bringing B’s reality into the present moment. This is not merely memory, but a revival of B’s full presence through A’s perception, even if B’s own consciousness is “elsewhere.”
  • Dynamic Engagement with Static Time: Although time in the Block Universe is static, conscious interaction with others might create dynamic pockets of reality within that framework. In this view, A’s consciousness “animates” the static reality of B at the point ABC, reviving B’s presence from the past and bringing it into the shared present. B’s full self, even if no longer conscious in that specific moment, becomes “resurrected” in the relational present through A’s engagement.

3. Memory vs. Resurrection of Existence:

The distinction between memory and resurrection is crucial here. If we think of B’s past presence at point ABC as a fixed event in spacetime, it is tempting to reduce B to a memory once their consciousness moves away from that moment. However, the idea that A’s conscious interaction with B resurrects B goes beyond mere memory. In this sense:

  • Memory involves a one-sided recollection of B’s past existence, a mental reconstruction.
  • Resurrection (in your context) implies a re-engagement of B’s full presence at point ABC, facilitated by A’s perception. Even though B is not consciously aware at that moment, their existence in spacetime is reactivated through A’s perception, making B as fully present as when their consciousness was originally at that moment.

4. Perception and Shared Realities:

This idea also ties into theories of shared reality, where the perception of one individual shapes the reality of another. In phenomenology, especially in the work of Edmund Husserl, the experience of the “other” plays a key role in how reality is constructed. When A interacts with B, A’s perception of B might revive B’s presence in a way that transcends mere memory. In this sense, even if B’s consciousness has moved on to a different moment in spacetime, their presence in that specific interaction is made “alive” again through A’s experience.

5. Implications for Consciousness and Existence:

Philosophically, this raises profound questions about the nature of existence:

  • Does existence depend on consciousness, or is it enough for consciousness to engage with an event to resurrect it?
  • Can we exist fully in the minds of others, even if our consciousness is not directly present in a given moment?

In a Multiverse Block Universe model, the potential for repeated instances of engagement between A and B across different versions of reality might amplify this effect, allowing for multiple points of resurrection or engagement in different universes.

Conclusion:

In the Block Universe, where time is static and every moment is fixed, A’s conscious perception of B in a present moment might indeed revive B’s existence, making B fully present again within the framework of that specific interaction. This is more than memory; it is a resurrection of B’s presence in a meaningful, relational way. The interaction creates a shared reality, where B’s existence at point ABC is reanimated by A’s conscious engagement, even if B’s consciousness is no longer at that same point.


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4 thoughts on “Exploring Consciousness in the Block Universe (A query to ChatGPT, again)”

  1. Another extremely exciting idea that you are pursuing, Donald! And a very good example of good interactive research with the help of AI. I will have to read the article a second and third time, but I am already fascinated that we are both working on a similar or the same question again. I am also trying to do this with my modest art and will write an article at the weekend in which the topic of Block Universe will be dealt with using an image as an example (in the second part).

    At the same time, of course, I am asking myself why, although we don’t know much about each other and live far away from each other, we repeatedly deal intensively with the same questions. This is mainly due to the fact that we consume similar literature or news.

    And yet I am thinking of “Zeitgeist”. This Zeitgeist counteracts the catastrophic global confusion that threatens us in all areas and perhaps leads us to a higher level of consciousness. Which would be another topic 🙂

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    1. I will have to soon post a picture of one of my three reading and writing areas where the books and articles are stacked one upon the other and are in what appears to be disorder to allow those who do not know me to be assured that I do not rely primarily on ChatGPT for information or to author what I write. But, when those of us who read widely and consume questions as eagerly as we consume answers are presented with new technology, it is a welcome new access point to the wider world of knowledge. I marvel daily how much easier it is now to research and write an article on tenth century Polish numismatics (in progress), 20th century artistic inspiration for a 1966 coinage design in an Eastern bloc people’s republic, my family’s ancestry, and so forth compared to even two decades ago. Research that would have required trips across the country to visit libraries or across the ocean to visit Europe are literally at my fingertips in some instances now.

      The response I received from AI above referenced Buber’s I and Thou, reminding me that I have read the work and it is still in my library. Granted, I have not read the work in over 40 years, and it would take me some time to locate it, as my library, especially for works not read in many years is not all on bookshelves, but this is another reason I do not hesitate to use AI. It points me to sources, many of which I already have, or can readily access.

      And I also marvel how the technology allows us to interact with individuals and new friends, such as yourself, Friedrich, in another country, so many miles aways, sharing similar interests, on such diverse topics as the one above, that are so exciting yet so esoteric to so many. I do look forward to your upcoming post and art, which I do so enjoy!

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      1. It’s clear after just a few lines, Donald, that you are very well read and have a lot of experience.

        As for AI, it would be useless if someone doesn’t have the necessary basic knowledge. AI could help me get to a higher level in the hip computer game XYZ. But since I’m one of those people who don’t know which way is up and which way is down on a control stick and haven’t gotten past solitaire, it won’t be helpful. For me, AI is a personal secretary who has all the knowledge and presents it to me in a way that’s easy to understand.

        Yes, it’s fantastic! And our generation has come out on top anyway: no war, no hunger. Instead, the best music, free love, traveling around the world and the Internet as the icing on the cake.

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